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Old Jan 15, 2008, 02:03 AM // 02:03   #1
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I'm sure there are a lot of threads about this here and where, but let's make a new one.

My build as a A/N

Consists of.

Unsuspecting Strike
Wild Strike
Death Blossom
Twisting fangs
Locust's fury
Critical Agility
Shadow Refuge
Critical Eye.


Now, My question really is to rate it, I'm using Everthorn's Chaks.

I've been blitzing through everything, I'm normally only taken 2-3 healers with me (2 Hero 1 Hench) and done every mission.

As I go into a battle I activate Locust's fury Critical agility and Critical eye, Energy is never a problem, but I'm relying heavily on these enchantment for this build.

The damage output is supreme, and can output over 200 damage in under 2-3 seconds.(Edit: This is from just attacking, not using any attack skills).

God damm, these late nights, I'm actually a A/N But I only use my secondary skills for pvp, this build is focused for PVE.

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Old Jan 15, 2008, 02:48 AM // 02:48   #2
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Locust's Fury only works on auto-attacks, so to be spamming your combo is to waste its function entirely. Other than that, Golden Fang Strike is better than Wild Strike and Shadow Refuge looks thrown in there; what are your atts? They probably disallow much milking of SR, so to speak. Overall a poor build that could be significantly optimized.
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 03:08 AM // 03:08   #3
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i give it a 2
sorry

unsuspecting sucks
2 dual attacks?
and no rez

meh
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 03:10 AM // 03:10   #4
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Locust's Fury only works on auto-attacks, so to be spamming your combo is to waste its function entirely. Other than that, Golden Fang Strike is better than Wild Strike and Shadow Refuge looks thrown in there; what are your atts? They probably disallow much milking of SR, so to speak. Overall a poor build that could be significantly optimized.
I think you've missed several key points in my build.

Shadow refuge is thrown in there as I've not had much time as of late to stick a better one in.

I'm not a fan of Golden fang and have used it before, I'm much more of a fan of Wild strike as it cannot be blocked and removes any stance.

Locust's fury combined with Critical agility and Critical eye is very fast at gaining my energy back.

I attack 1-2 every second without Locust's fury, With it I'm also getting a 60% chance to attack 3-4 times every second if none of these are a crit I get 4 energy back, if one of them crits I get 5, now on average each of these hits is about 15-20, depending on the crit/Armor type of the target, I feel this is a very good idea combining all 3 skills into 1 single energy feedback.

So when I do actually use my combo's to attack, I'll open up with unsuspecting strike, wait about 1-2 seconds get some energy back get in with a Wild strike then depending on the amount of targets around, and what target type, I'll use death blossom, or again wait 1-2 seconds and use Twisting fangs.

12 Dagger, 9 Shadow arts, 13 Critical strikes.

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i give it a 2
sorry

unsuspecting sucks
2 dual attacks?
and no rez

meh
Read my post again, I've made a slight error there.

Unsuspecting is actually amazing when I open up on a target, having 3 monks behind me just healing me won't get to attack much so It's a great opener, although I have thought about changing it to Golden fox strike.

2 Dual attacks is ideal, Death blossom for larger groups so I can hit multiple foes at a time, and Twisting fangs for a bleed and a deep wound, ideal for bosses or when I'm in a hurry.

And I'm in no need for a rez with 3 monks.


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I'm heading to bed now, If anyone actually does actually get a chance, I'd really suggest giving this build a go and then rate it, rather then look at it and think It's rubbish.

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Old Jan 15, 2008, 03:24 AM // 03:24   #5
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Monks shouldn't bring res, people should bring res signets.
Locust's fury isn't useful here, use something better.
Deep wound wins, that's why the fang strike owns.
And still have 2 dual attacks.
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 03:27 AM // 03:27   #6
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The damage output is supreme, and can output over 200 damage in under 2-3 seconds.(Edit: This is from just attacking, not using any attack skills).
What? How do you get 200 damage from autoattacking?
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 03:44 AM // 03:44   #7
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What? How do you get 200 damage from autoattacking?
you just haveto make up numbers, its pretty easy. like this:
"mending gives me almost 742 health every 4 seconds"

now you try
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 08:06 AM // 08:06   #8
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40AL monsters?
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 12:59 PM // 12:59   #9
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Monks shouldn't bring res, people should bring res signets.
Locust's fury isn't useful here, use something better.
Deep wound wins, that's why the fang strike owns.
And still have 2 dual attacks.
I also have Moebius strike that I use on certain bosses, Like Shiro, and sometimes switch it out with Locust's.

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What? How do you get 200 damage from autoattacking?
Imagine this, I could attack let's say, a level 20 monks of any race, I crit him for let's say about 30, and then again for another 30, and then with my offhand the same, that's already 120 in about 1 second, I don't make these numbers up.

And if you aren't sure about how that could actually work, Just try making one with that build and see what happens.

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you just haveto make up numbers, its pretty easy. like this:
"mending gives me almost 742 health every 4 seconds"

now you try

All I've seen you do this thread is troll like you have no purpose in this world, so I've gone ahead and just reported you as all you are doing is just trolling a thread.
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 01:56 PM // 13:56   #10
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Locust's Fury only works on auto-attacks, so to be spamming your combo is to waste its function entirely.
Yea, only use I've found for Locust's Fury is on heroes, since heroes hate using attack skills. I'd definitely drop that in favour of another elite.
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 02:53 PM // 14:53   #11
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Rating, as usual, Moebius Spammer is still better.
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 03:17 PM // 15:17   #12
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Imagine this, I could attack let's say, a level 20 monks of any race, I crit him for let's say about 30, and then again for another 30, and then with my offhand the same, that's already 120 in about 1 second, I don't make these numbers up.
Thought you said auto-attack?

And report him?! He's merely putting it in clearer words for other people, I really doubt you can rack up 200dmg just by auto attacking, unless you are against like AL40
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 03:44 PM // 15:44   #13
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Thought you said auto-attack?

And report him?! He's merely putting it in clearer words for other people, I really doubt you can rack up 200dmg just by auto attacking, unless you are against like AL40
I ment offhand auto attack.

And no he's just sarcasticly trolling, I'd really like more people to try this build then rate it.

The numbers I'm saying aren't just made up.
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 03:51 PM // 15:51   #14
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Nvm, i get you i think
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 03:58 PM // 15:58   #15
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Nvm, i get you i think

Go get a pair of daggers with -1 Energy regen +1 On hit.

Import that build and give it a go.

Activate Agillity, Eye, and locust, then attack something.
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 04:06 PM // 16:06   #16
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Wll do, but still don't see me getting 200dmg in 2-3 seconds just from auto attack mode.

Also, NEVER ask people to rate your build without expecting some flame, it never happens, if you can't deal with some peoples way of critising your build, don't post it
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 04:16 PM // 16:16   #17
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Wll do, but still don't see me getting 200dmg in 2-3 seconds just from auto attack mode.

Also, NEVER ask people to rate your build without expecting some flame, it never happens, if you can't deal with some peoples way of critising your build, don't post it
I can deal with it I'm just not a fan of people who put in Sarcastic comments and not really help at all, and I'll also explain my build more promptly from now on.
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 06:30 PM // 18:30   #18
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I tried the build and did the math just to make sure, and Titan is not too far off on the 200dmg in 2-3 seconds. On a 60 armor level target the most I was getting was 150 +-5 just from auto attacking, this is if every attack is a critical and you get dual attacks every time. This is with Locust's Fury, Critical Eye and Critical Agility. Add in a Vampiric Weapon and you get another 13 total damage, 173 total. So if you manage to get more than that then I am wondering how. I did the testing in the training area at the temple of balthazar. Were there any other buffs that you were using to increase damage?
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 06:38 PM // 18:38   #19
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I tried the build and did the math just to make sure, and Titan is not too far off on the 200dmg in 2-3 seconds. On a 60 armor level target the most I was getting was 150 +-5 just from auto attacking, this is if every attack is a critical and you get dual attacks every time. This is with Locust's Fury, Critical Eye and Critical Agility. Add in a Vampiric Weapon and you get another 13 total damage, 173 total. So if you manage to get more than that then I am wondering how. I did the testing in the training area at the temple of balthazar. Were there any other buffs that you were using to increase damage?
Customized weps.

I think one of my heroes has cracked armor so that might help as well.
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 06:49 PM // 18:49   #20
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That would do it, I don't customise my weapons. I will go home and do that and add in cracked armor, but just doing rough calculations in my head I know it will push it over the 200dmg mark. Thanks for the clerification.
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